Robbed Online (Gumtree Scam)

On Friday the 8th Feb I posted an advert on Gumtree to sell my TV. Within minutes I received a call from a person calling himself David. His number is 0728790380 - he also sent me messages via WhatsApp. This number is still active on WhatsApp and rings - he just doesn't respond to calls or messages.

He had a detailed and friendly discussion with me: "does the TV have a wall mount because he wants to mount it on the wall in his daughters room; it doesn't matter that there is no remote as she will be watching whatever is on the main DsTV channel in the lounge."

He sent me a proof of payment text message which supposedly came from Bidvest Bank (see picture) which looks very genuine. Bidvest Bank fraud unit have just confirmed with me that it is not theirs and is fraudulent.

He phoned me again to confirm that I had received the text message showing proof of payment, He also told me that he had paid an extra R35 so that it would be an immediate transfer to my bank and wouldn't take 2 days, and the funds would appear within 3 to 8 hours. He had already arranged for an Uber driver to come and collect the TV from my house, and the Uber driver had already arrived.

A sign that I should have picked up as unusual was that instead of paying the R2,520.00 for the TV the EFT message showed that he had paid more R2,600.00 - who does that? I don't need to explain why I overlooked this warning sign!

David's profile picture on WhatsApp is from a Facebook group called "Fresh Fire Prophetic Prayer Ministries"

I took a picture of the Uber vehicle and number plate (it would seem that I can't attach more than one picture to this report) - the driver's name was Emile (we joked about the fact that David had called him Emily), his car is a blue Honda CA 670 069. I do not know if the Uber driver is in on this scam or not. Emile told me that he was taking the TV to drop it off at David's cousin in Langa (David had said that he is at work in Brackenfell).

After the Uber driver left with the TV David again phoned me to say that the Uber driver had phoned him to confirm that he had left with the TV, he thanked me and told me that I could contact him and stay in touch with him all the time.

When I did contact David a few times via phone and WhatsApp within the next few hours when there were no funds in my account he told me that the Internet transfer did appear in his account and that he would contact his bank to check.

I have been unable to get a response from David since.

Report ID: 33424
Crime Category: Fraud
Province: Western Cape
City/Town: Other
Suburb: Hout Bay
Address: Online
Crime Date/Time: 8 Feb 2019, 13:02 PM
Reported By: johanlon
Reported Date: 10 Feb 2019, 18:02 PM
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  • Brad660718 14 Mar 2019, 10:34 AM

    No problem John. We have informed Diep River police that a similar case has been made at Hout Bay - hopefully they will be able to link the 2 up, but these guys use different cellphones daily and also they use different vehicles to collect the items. I think the biggest warning would be if you ever receive a confirmation screen image payment from Bidvest then you know its a scam. Our neighbor does have CCTV but even if we get the vehicle registration number it will probably be that of an Uber. I will keep you posted if I hear anything more on these scammers. Cheers

  • johanlon 13 Mar 2019, 02:23 PM

    Hi Brad
    I'm not 100% sure how I managed to post the picture of the fraudulent Bidvest bank deposit notification.
    I can only think of 2 ways that I did it - perhaps as I was the creator of this message train when you create the first message there is an option to include a picture - I do remember that I couldn't add more than one.
    The other possibility is that I simply cut and paste the picture into the message - I have just tried that here and it didn't work though.

  • Brad660718 13 Mar 2019, 02:13 PM

    Hi all. How do I upload a photo to these comments? Thanks

  • Brad660718 13 Mar 2019, 09:01 AM

    My daughter was scammed on Friday by David. He deposited R18000 into her bank account and took her laptop. Case has been opened at Diep River police station

  • johanlon 9 Mar 2019, 10:22 PM

    Hi Eva
    To be honest I didn't ever get round to reporting it at the Hout Bay police station. I did report it to Uber, Gumtree and the SAPS cyber online site and here. I received replies from Uber and Gumtree offering contact details for the police to contact. A combination of having little faith in the possibility of the police following up and the fact that I was moving home and doing the entire move myself ... and I never got round to reporting it.
    I was told by a security person that I met that Captain Lourens at the Hout Bay police station would follow up, but I still haven't got round to it.
    I sort of just wanted to put the whole sorry saga behind me and move on.

  • EvaJ 9 Mar 2019, 08:45 PM

    I just got scammed from him yesterday. He sent me a picture of his ID - his "cousin" Richard collected the phone for David. Richard has sent me Davids address in Seapoint. Davids current number is +27673881423 (he has blocked me on whatsapp and declines all my calls).
    I want to open a case against David and Richard tomorrow. I have richards face on camera (luckily i met with him right outside my husbands work). Johanlon - what did the police say?

  • johanlon 13 Feb 2019, 07:37 PM

    Sorry to hear that Alette. I've reported my scam here, to Uber, to Gumtree, and to Cyber Crime online. Tomorrow I'm going to the police to tell the story and I'll give them the responses that I've received from Gumtree and Uber.

  • Alette 13 Feb 2019, 07:07 PM

    Same guy scammed me on 3 February. I was selling my iPhone 6.

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