Beware! Attempted Fraudster

After inquiring about a vehicle advertised on Gumtree I received the following email from Meier Andreas <>

Because of my financial problems that i have got i am willing to give it for   5.700 USD ( 57.390 ZAR )   - shipping included . The car is in perfect condition with no damage on it .All   documents are included .I moved from South Africa on march 2014 and right now i am located in United Kingdom because my company wanted to work in london / united Kingdom  . THe car is with me here in the UK . I can send the car to you in 3-5 working days .  I can deliver the car with a shipping company from UK/London to any location in South Africa on my cost.I will not ask you any money in advance , you will gone have to pay just the shipping taxes to the shipping company to the shipping company not to me and the rest on delivery confirms .
Please write me back to discuss only if you are interested!

I responded:

Good day Meier,

It seems a great deal, I would just like to know if I would be required to pay shipping taxes to the shipping company before delivery or on delivery of the vehicle? I am wary of paying up front for an item I cannot see and have heard of many a scam where people pay for shipping of an item and loose their money as a result. Secondly how would I pay you once the vehicle is delivered to me, this seems a little off because how can you trust that I won't accept delivery of the vehicle and then not pay you for it? In terms of licensing how would this work, is the vehicle registered for operation in the UK and South Africa or would I need special papers to have it registered in South Africa. Please excuse all my questions but I have never managed an international purchase before and am unfamiliar with the processes involved. I look forward to your response in this regard.

Kind regards,

He Responded:


The total price is  5.700 USD ( 57.390 ZAR )    all taxes and shipping included.  
Last year i was scammed for 3.200 USD  now that is why i am paying money to company  to protect me and you .I already signed a contract with and I paid all the taxes and I have no interested in loosing thatkind of money. This is the only way and my only condition in this transaction because i do not want to be scammed again(IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT THE TRANSACTION TERMS,PLEASE DO NOT INSIST WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS.)Terms of the Transaction:Here is how I want to go about delivery and payment for the car which will be and will also give you the chance to inspect the car before I receive the payment for it.I will explain to you step by step how this will work.1)First you have to send me your shipping information (your name and address).2)After I receive your shipping info, I'll go to at and leave the  car into your name and with your address as the intended receiver.3)""  will check the  car ,also the legal papers to see that everything is OK with it.4)You will receive a notification from ""  as a confirmation that the  car is in their custody and also,that the  car has been tested.5)After that, you will have to make a payment  of 1.150 USD ( 12.560 ZAR) as a guarantee for the shipping taxes  to the "" Departament and address ,  and send the payment information to "" and the rest of 4.550 USD  when delivery confirms .6)""  will verify the payment, and if everything is in order, they will deliver the  car to your door step.7)After you will receive the  car and you will be completely satisfied with it, you will instruct ""  with your decision. You have 10 days to inspect it and take a decision.If you don't keep it,they will refund back your payment .8)If by any reason, you will not be satisfy  by the  car,you will send back car to ""  with no expense. Let me know if we can do this. NOTE:SHIPPING TIME: 3-5 DAYS.The money will be sent to the Shipping Company  before you will receive the car and not to me. I repeat they will keepyour money until you receive the car and the documents of the car . You will have an inspection period of 10 days. Inthis time you can check, test and inspect the car. An EU Moving agent will be there to help you to register the car. Ifby any reason (the car has any hidden damage or it isn't like i describe it) you can reject the deal. In this caseShipping Company will refund you totally and they will ship the car back on MY cost. The car was verified by the Shipping Company qualified automotive technician and the car have passed all the test with no problems.

I then looked up the website of the supposed shipping company and found that it had been reported before for scams and I then told the supposed seller I was not interested because it was a scam and I have received no further correspondence since.

Just wanted to report this so others can be warned!

The bad spelling was a give-away and I have heard of scams like this so I knew what to look out for.

Report ID: 6829
Crime Category: Fraud
Province: Eastern Cape
City/Town: Grahamstown
Suburb: N/A
Address: Gumtree
Crime Date/Time: 18 Aug 2014, 00:08 AM
Reported By: Username6829
Reported Date: 18 Aug 2014, 23:08 PM
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  • Evert2 28 Oct 2014, 10:42 PM

    Thanks for the warning. He also almost caught me with the same story. Exactly the same scenario but this was with a ktm motorcycle.

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